They killed Gallifrey! The bastards!
I know. But…notice they didn’t actually SAY Gallifrey?
So if he’s the last of his species, how did the Dr. get a new body? Don’t they need other timelords for that?
I’m so confused.
(and I like that this doctor is kind of a horn-dog…with trees, no less)
I’m not sure other timelords are required for regeneration. I used to have a book on the “science” of Dr Who (it had a cool diagram of the inside of a Dalek), I wish I still had it.
The actress who played that tree looked very familiar, so I looked her up. She’s Yasmin Bannerman, and I’d seen her in Red Dwarf and Hollyoaks. Damn, I just admitted to watching Hollyoaks.
Okay, I’m going to have to admit that I’m not THAT familiar with Dr. Who’s backstory. When he said his planet died and that he was the last one, I just assumed this was already established. I take it then that this is new information?
Unless something happened in the Sylvester McCoy era, which I didn’t pay as much attention to, yes it is new information. As far as I remember Gallifrey and the timelords were alive and well. The Doctor was always a renegade, a thorn in the side of the Gallifrey high council. His Nemesis, The Master, was also a renegade timelord, with a slightly better functioning TARDIS and a bad habit of dessicating people.
Actually I did some research among the reviews (man, some people HATE this show) and yes, it’s a new revelation. But if he’s the last of the Time Lords, does that mean there’s no more Master?
Of course, it could be that the Doctor only thinks he’s the last Time Lord. Certainly, the Master could still be around…
My hope is that the Master instigated the war that has been alluded to, with help from the Daleks and the Cybermen, and the Doctor is going to go after all of them. A battle of wits between the Doctor, the Master and Davros would make a great end of season episode…
Ok, I admit I am totally ignorant about Dr. Who (since I don’t watch TV, and didn’t have cable long enough ago to see the original).
So you’ve got to appreciate what I thought (even if only momentarily) when I read this:
“The actress who played that tree looked very familiar”
Isn’t that funny?
The trees were funny, but the “Adherents of the Repeated Meme” get the award for the best alien race title ever. Russell T Davies is a genius, and I’m guessing a Richard Dawkins fan.
Oh and I just found out that Zoe Wanamaker played Cassandra. I knew I recognised that voice from somewhere.
I think the theory that the Doctor only thinks he’s the last one is credible. And even if Gallifrey is destoyed, can’t the Doctor break protocol and use the TARDIS to go back in time and save the planet? And Kerry pointed out something as well: The TARDIS’ power source is on Gallifrey. If Gallifrey is destroyed, why is the TARDIS still running?
Ah but maybe someone took the Eye of Harmony away from Gallifrey before the planet was destroyed. Or maybe it survived the destruction (can you destroy a super-compressed black hole?). Or maybe the Doctor made himself a new power source; he’s been around long enough to be as smart as Rasillon.
Or maybe the show’s writers didn’t think of any of that.
Hello everybody. I’ve not posted here before but I thought I’d but in. The destruction of Gallifrey and the “time war” being alluded to in the new series scripts all took place in the BBC eigth doctor range of novels. These stories are – it would seem – considered canonical by Mr Davies. Quite right too. The time wars took place in Gallifrey’s distant future but the Time Lords of the “present” began developing weapons in preperation, thus accelarating the war. As the war’s ripples started to effect causality everywhere the universe started to feel the strain. Until, that is, the time lords and their world were completely destroyed by one of their own. Can’t wait for the possible revelation on TV that the Doctor himself was the “Bad Wolf” who destroyed Gallifrey for the greater good
Ah, interesting. I never read the books, thanks for the explanation.
I just heard there’s going to be a Dalek in an upcoming episode, how cool is that?
There is a nice explanation of how the TARDIS can still run at the link. Hope that helps.
My take has always been that the Doctor is Rassilon.
He hasn’t always remembered this, however, and that was by his own design.
He tired of being worshipped, so he took off, after using the same mind-wipe technology the TLs used on Pertwee.
As for what happened to Gallifrey, he began the Time Lords and when they became corrupt beyond all recognition, he destroyed them.
But Omega, and he as Alpha, must at some point travel back to bring them into being.
And as the first of all Time Lords, the 12-life regeneration cycle doesn’t apply to him.
Just my take on it.
Actually, the Doctor is “The Other” – the low-profile third member of the original Time Lord triumvirate (Omega, Rassilon and The Other).
This is first alluded to in the novelised version of “Remembrance of the Daleks” (the one with McCoy, Ace, and the supercharged baseball bat).
It’s established firmly in “Lungbarrow” – which you can now read in full on the BBC website.
I am dismayed that anyone would believe that I would destroy Gallifrey for ANY reason “Greater good” or not.
I have said this before and I will say this again; Gallifrey is the oldest planet in the universe and Gallifreyans are the first-ones of the entire universe, this has already been established.
It seems that the writers of the MA and NA novels, are just as STUPID as I thought they were.
How many times can Gallifrey be destroyed, in “The Gallifrey Chronicles” it was because of FACTION PARADOX, then it was due to the DALEKS in the so called “Time War”, so unless I failed maths Gallifrey has been destroyed twice already.
No I am glad that DOCTOR WHO is back, but RTD made three mistakes so far:
1. Yes the TARDIS is powered by the “Eye of Harmony” which as you all know is on Gallifrey. NOW the “Eye” is a Black Hole (AKA Quantum singularity), the only thing powerful enough to fuel the TARDIS, so sorry but a Dimension Rift would be like trying to power a semi-trailor with one drop of water.
2. The Doctor is already in his 9th incarnation, now a Timelord can regenerate 12 times, giving them 13 lives. (So 3 regens/4 lives left)
Timelords can gain a new cycle of regeneerations, of which can only be done on Gallifrey, oops…Given the fact that Chris left after 1 year, Hmm 4 years left.
3. So with the future in question, what next, oh yes.
The manipulation of the Doctor, by the Timelords, lead to some of the best stories. Yes the Timelords have a Non-interference law, but that does not stop them manipulating the universe behind the scenes, after all Gallifrey means: “They that walk in Shadows.”
Besides, the Timelords could easily wipe the Daleks, out of existence if they thought their own planet was at risk.
One The Doctor
Isn’t The Last Timelord
There’s Susan On Earth
Romana In E-SPACE
Yes Romana Went Back To Galifrey But Had Her
Tardis Desguised As A Cupboard In The Presidents Room
She Left During The Time War
So Did The Doctor He Left Half Way Through It (8th Doctor)
He Regenerated Of Exhaustion (Like The First Doctor)
In The Tardis
And Gallifrey Wasn’t Destroyed
It Jumped Time 3000 Years
The Time Lords Left Gallifrey Though So
They Just Float Through Time And Space
Because They Thought Galifrey Was Destroyed
And The Daleks Actually There
They Were Holograms
So Thats How The Daleks Survived The Time War
David Tennant Isn’t The 10th Doctor
He’s The 11th
Because The 8Th Doctor Stopped
A Regeneration So That Was One Wasted
David Tennant Is The 11th Doctor
But He Will Not Die Because The Second Doctor Spilled A drop Of Mercury On HimSelf So He Can’t Die
And The Second Doctor Didn’t Do 3 Years He Did 3 And A Half Because We Don’t See Him Regenerate It Just Goes
Black He Re meats Jamie And Zoe Then He’s Forced To Regenerate After Half A year
The Doctor Has 13 Lives 3 Regenerations Left
And When He Dies After That Hes Dead For good
Leela DiedOn Galifrey When It Shifted 3000 Years Into The Future
There Were 2 K9′s In THE TIME WAR only One Survived K9MKII
The Time War Was In The Year 2013
When The Doctor Regenerates From 12-13 We Will See Flash Back Of The Time War
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The 13th Doctor is pulled back to the Olt Tim e in Gallifrey’s past.
He was of the 3, Rassilon, Omega, and The Other. His memories
of that time were wipped out.
When brought back to the Old Time, Rassilon informs the Doctor
that the Time Continuum is imbalanced and the Time Lords of
that time can not keep everything stable due to all the time shifts,
changes, rifts, and alternate timelines being made, which are out
Rassilon wants The Doctor to go back to the Now Time and set
things right. The Doctor informs Rassilon he needs help.
The Guards escort in two other Doctors, the 1st, and the 8th.
They all look at each other as Rassilon tells them the 3 of them
must work it all out and sends them to the Now Time.
K9 MK78, sorry but the 10th Doctor is Tennant. Paul McGann was the 8th Doctor, he regenerated into Eccleston (9th Doctor). You seem to have missed a whole regeneration, somehow.
As for the Doctor not dying, mercury won’t stop the Doctor dying, mercury just doesn’t affect Time Lords the way it affects people.
I read the other comment… Sorry, but you clearly don’t have a clue.
Susan was left IN THE FUTURE. Time is relative. He is the last Time Lord in that relative time. Romana stayed in E-Space, she never went back to Gallifrey.
Gallifrey didn’t shift 3,000 years. You’re pulling rubbish out of thin air.
The Second Doctor didn’t meet Zoe again, he had a final incursion with Jamie which is the Two Doctors story, hence his grey hair. This was explained in a book (forgive me for not stating the book title, I can’t remember it’s name off the top of my head).
There is going to be a return however, The Master. In episodes The Last Timelord (episode 13 of Series 3/Season 31). You can work this out easily: Keyword is “Saxon”, rearrange it you get “Axons”, who starred with them? The Master. Plus the Face of Boe said that the doctor “wasn’t alone” as his final “secret”.
Before you post such NONSENSE, get a clue and read up on your facts. You’re a disgrace to Who fans spouting such claptrap.
I found it quite fascinating as I hadnt watched the classics until last month, I had no idea that gallifray was actually in the classic series and i love the twist of the new story that it was destroyed.
I would absolutly love to see a film based on the time war, wouldn’t it be a great hit.
anyone wana chat about this email me as i only popped on this thing for a sec.
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